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Post by marcusbacus on Nov 3, 2004 19:30:38 GMT -5
We all have heard about the effect of a cold temperature on the bettas, but what can happen if the temperature is too high (say above 85F)?
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Post by abm on Nov 3, 2004 20:12:00 GMT -5
From what I've read and learned talking to people, higher temps mainly increase the betta's metabolism, so that he lives a shorter, but much more active, life. How much shorter, I couldn't say from any personal experience.
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Post by mandymarie on Nov 7, 2004 20:45:10 GMT -5
You should be carefull about how high it gets though, I was out of town for a week or so and left a friend to take care of the bettas, I left her very specific instructions and when she noticed the temp in Cherry's temp was to low she turned up the heater(I forgot to mention what was too high) I came home and found Cherry dead, after a little investigation I found it was from the temp being too high.
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Post by marcusbacus on Nov 7, 2004 22:12:26 GMT -5
my heaters are all off as we're getting near summer, but the temp outside was around 35C (95F?) other day... the temp inside the tanks arent that high though, it never gets past 30C (86F?).
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Post by twoluvcats on Nov 8, 2004 10:39:27 GMT -5
i wouldn't let your tanks get much above 86 degrees...if they start getting warmer than that, you may need to think about using a fan to cool them down, or moving them to an air-conditioned room if possible. Too warm water can be just as debilitating as cold water, as it speeds up thier metabolisim.
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Post by starlight on Nov 8, 2004 12:05:47 GMT -5
Bacteria flourish at higher water temps. 78-80 is best for bettas. I wouldn't want to keep bettas above 82 degrees. They can tolerate it but columnaris and other bacteria enjoy the higher temperature.
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Post by amanichen on Nov 11, 2004 12:30:48 GMT -5
I missed this thread...probably forgot about it.
Keeping a betta at 80 as opposed to 77 wouldn't significantly shorten its lifespan, but 85 might.
You also have to keep in mind that lifespan is not exclusively dependent on metabolic rate, and that there many different ways to kill a fish over the long term.
By that logic, bettas should be kept in 60F water because it will result in the longest lifespan. We know that's just not true. Lifespan gets dramatically shorter at the extremes, but doesn't change much near the middle: so 77 as opposed to 80, won't make much of a difference. but, 77 or 80 as compared to 85, might. 80 to 90 would definitely cause a shorter life.
You could keep the fish at 70F which is a "deep freeze" for a betta, but at the same time you'd be increasing the risk of health problems and decreasing the fish's overall activity level.
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Post by BeansMom on Nov 11, 2004 13:36:44 GMT -5
Living in Southern California, my rooms easily get well above 85 degrees in the summer. I had to move my bettas into my bedroom since it is smaller and I could control the temp better. I installed a window air conditioner ( I don't have central air), and watched carefully for a few days. Then, I put this a/c on an on/off timer. It cools the room as the temp rises, and the heaters then work to keep the tanks a stable 79 degrees. The only time I allowed the temp to reach 85 was when I was treating for ICH. Are these spoiled bettas, or what? In any case, they seem to be at their best at around 79.
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Post by marcusbacus on Nov 11, 2004 17:43:57 GMT -5
Even with the temp outside reaching 35C (95F!) which I think it's the highest it can get here, the tanks temps are way below that, peaking at 29C the most (84F) according to my thermometers (both are measuring the same, and they are from different brands), and if it is extremely hot outside or if I'm using the thermostate set a bit above its middle settings, which I don't do anymore (it's set to around "25%"). I think they have never went past 30C (87F).
In my bedroom I think the temp doesn't reach 35C at all (there isn't direct sunlight except in the morning when the blinds are shut), this is more the temp on the streets and at night it gets much cooler sometimes (maybe 25C if the day was too hot) - there is a very nice breeze from the mountains. During winter though it's a different story, it can easily reach 10C (50F)... much probably the actual temp range in my tanks (if heaters are off) is 25C-30C (77-87F) during normal-warm-very hot days.
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