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Post by palepinkvase on Sept 27, 2004 21:28:17 GMT -5
I want to post this as I have now had 3 people tell me about this treatment for fin rot. They claimed it worked and didnt adversely affect their Bettas. I have my doubts and would like the opinions of those on HB. Here is the treatment:
Place your betta into a 1:1 solution of water and alcohol (preferably ethanol) When he turns over, immediately return him to fresh water.
I have heard of using an alcohol solution as a means to euthanize a fish, but not as a treatment for a disease. Has anyone here tried this? Though the people said it worked, I am wondering if they were just lucky.
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Post by ericamae04 on Sept 27, 2004 21:38:07 GMT -5
Hello,
I have heard this as well, however, the solution was more like 1 part alcohol, actually it was hydrogen peroxide rather than alcohol, and like 5 parts water... but never a 1:1 ratio.... I would be scared to try it anyways... There's also that one Dip-away(?) treatment, which you dip the fish in but i never tried it and again, i would be too scared to... Im not too experienced anyways..
Just a thought... ~Erica
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Post by palepinkvase on Sept 27, 2004 21:41:30 GMT -5
I rely on super clean water and if that doesn't work (or if the fin rot is really bad) I use Jungle Fungus Clear tabs. I am always open to other suggestions, but this one sounds, well, "fishy".
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Post by abm on Sept 27, 2004 21:52:57 GMT -5
Wow, I don't know if I could put my betta into such strong stuff I've never heard of this, and I'm with you PPV, clean water seems to solve most of my guys' issues before they start:)
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Post by ericamae04 on Sept 27, 2004 21:54:05 GMT -5
Yea i agree... I would use less complicated meds or I mean easy to use meds rather than "dipping" my fish, like jungle fungus eliminator or whatever is handy.. ;D
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Post by Rachel on Sept 27, 2004 23:29:59 GMT -5
Hi PPV, I've only heard about the use of alcohol to euthanize as well. Hydrogen peroxide can be used, but it can be difficult to get it just right and you need to fully know what you're doing ahead of time. There's also that one Dip-away(?) treatment, which you dip the fish in but i never tried it and again, i would be too scared to... Dip-A-Way by Aquatronics is actually a much different procedure for your fish as it is well tested and safe, since it is a manufactured fish medication. It is actually very easy to do though and has proven to be very effective for me. Long story short you basically just net your betta, set the net with betta in the solution for a few seconds, remove, and dip in clean water and your betta is set to go back in his tank. No meds ever have to touch the tank unless you wish to further treat an ailment, which can be beneficial to both your fish and tank - why treat for 5 days when you can treat for 20 seconds instead. We have a great article about DAW on the HB homepage written by Starlight. www.healthybetta.com/articles/Illness%20Diagonsis/dipaway.htm.
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Post by amanichen on Sept 27, 2004 23:48:00 GMT -5
Who were these people? I've never heard of this before, and the ludicrousness of this "treatment" leads me to believe that the three people you heard it from, all had connections to each other. There's no way that a random sampling of three normal fish hobbyists would result in three recommendations for alcohol use. But of course, these don't sound like your normal hobbyists, and I don't think it was quite a random sampling (i.e. they knew each other.) Preferrably ethanol? Any other type of alcohol would kill a living organism. I don't know why one is simply "preferred," when just about any type has the potential to kill a fish. And ethanol itself is pretty strong. It's hard to say that there won't be any lasting effects from it...after all from the description it sounds like you're giving the fish a sudden and acute case of alcohol poisoning. and of course we all know that's completely healthy for a living organism, and has no lasting effects And even after that there's no guarantee that you'll kill all the bacteria. I suppose you could just put the fish in 151 proof liquor, for that effect, but then you wouldn't have much of a fish left. At any rate, there's no need for something as stupid and dangerous as this to cure fin rot. Lets just all cut off our heads to cure our headaches! I would seriously consider staying away from these people for fish advice.
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Post by ericamae04 on Sept 27, 2004 23:59:32 GMT -5
Hi, I am one of those people that heard this but i actually read it on a different website, i just cant remember which one... so its not like i would try it anyways.. and yea i did hear that that is a way to humanely kill a fish, and to treat it. But i would NEVER try it! Thanks rachel for clarifying the Dip-a-way treatment, and it does seem to be very affective and i shoulda read more on it... ~Erica
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Post by palepinkvase on Sept 28, 2004 11:52:30 GMT -5
Please note that one of the persons was working at a LPS. It is certanily possible that the other 2 got the info from the first person, which might explain why they were willing to try such a procedure. It is sad that another website is posting this as a method to cure fin rot, especially since (as Rachel and Amanichen noted) there are other safer ways to deal with fin rot.
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Post by amanichen on Sept 28, 2004 11:56:35 GMT -5
Please note that one of the persons was working at a LPS. Yikes.
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